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So, [profile] alethialia as usual has been stimulating my brain and so, I've decided meta should be written on why do we like certain pairings over others. Not that I'm doing it now, this should be considered as a Recon mission, okay? Okay

Having said that : 
M/A
Mal/River
Kaylee/Jayne
These will do. Discuss

But you know, I'm particularly interested in Max/Alec, because I kinda like the idea of them, even if I know that they are extremely different people, and well, I kinda have this conception of Max before Logan and then Logan's Max which sadly makes her look weak. But then Alec walks in and, for some reason, sets about opening Max's eyes about Logan and the world in general, actually. I still don't know why is it so important to me that he does, or why would he even bother, seeing as how nice Max is NOT with him... and how realistic Alec is, he's not the type to go around lying to himself or being something because somebody else wants him to be.
Imo there are two key moments in this whole M/A dealio, first when he calls her Max for the fist time, like he's acknowledging her condition of human being, of a woman who's worthy of his time and energy, you know the moment, when he walks out of her cell sporting his brand new name and he says "see you around...Max" there was a certain investment in that, a certain something that puzzled me, like he was seeing soemthing in her he hadn't seen before and it pissed me off that Max hadn't picked up on that (in that very moment I was all about M/A) and the second moment was right after Max gives Alec a lift to that check point in "Two" and he has to go on his own illicit ways to cross it because he doesn't have a sector pass, he lingers and when Max announces she's a Jam Pony messenger, Alec's look... is more than "Heh, I know where to get one of those now" of course he made it seem like the whole point of him dropping by JP looking for a job was to get himself a sector pass, but still, there was something about his look that made me think that he too was a Max/Alec shipper...
Or, you know, I could be seeing too much in it, we usually see what we want to see, so it is entirely possible that I'm looking for something more than just two pretty creatures hooking up for the heck of it. In fact my personal Holly Grail is to write the "how did they come to be Max/Alec" and I'm trying folks.

So, I'd like to know your opinion in the subject, since it could clarify some points for me, or could even bring into consideration pointers that I'm missing and that might be of a great help for my writer's ambitions. 

Date: 4/17/07 18:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophisticas.livejournal.com
Max/Alec fascinates me like no other ship because of what they bring out in each other. Alec steps away from the 'only out for himself' track (and I don't think he even realises he does it) time and time again for Max, and Max finds herself saving his ass just as much, even though she professes to not be able to stand the guy half the time. I think theres an honesty to their relationship that neither realises nor understands; Alec doesn't put her on a pedestal like Logan does, and Max somehow relishes that without even knowing, and somehow Max brings out more of the personality 'Alec' and less of the soldier '494' in a way that I doubt Alec has allowed himself since Rachel.

And I have no clue whether that makes the slightest bit of sense because I've just gotten in from work and my brain is friend, but thats my two cents. :P

(I could meta on Max and Alec all day. Tis one of the few pairings I can. :))

Date: 4/17/07 18:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophisticas.livejournal.com
Fried, not Friend! See, I'm pooped. :P

Date: 4/17/07 20:25 (UTC)
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Oh hi! so good to... um, read from you!

What they bring out of each other, huh. I like that. And yeah, probably Alec had no idea why did he stay around even though Seattle was the freaking ground zero for transie hunting, but I still think Alec gets Max in a way Logan never has, in a way she, herself doesn't. Maybe it has to do with what you wrote, about him not idealizing her (which is perfectly IC with Alec) and knowing what she is, instead of what she could be (as in, this potential heroic super girl, who can negate her abnormality by doing better for those who are normal and can't do it by themselves, which is how I feel the whole Logan/Max thing came to be. They both idealize each other; I never really got the physicality of that relationship even when they could touch, so I never bought the "we're so in love, we don't care if we can't be together" speech), yanno?
Also? I think Max has no idea of why does she help Alec either and she chooses to tell the world (and herself) that she does it because its the right thing, but maybe somewhere she knows that all that Alec isn't is because of nurturing, not because he really doesn't have it in him, and he just needs to see what he can get out of being a good guy and all, so maybe that's what she's trying to show him, she's just not big on pedagogy... does THAT make any sense?

And it did make sense (your post). Don't worry. And I still read FRIED anyway, in fact if you hadn't pointed out, I wouldn't have noticed it :P

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